[asdfasdfasdParticipant 26 December 2022 at 10:51 Post count: 46]

#33867

Hi.. and Feliz Navidad

@ur63 thanks

@sinn3r

Thanks for the answer.. in the 773 with the baos I memorize the variables (data pointer, maximum 250) that act as a bridge between knx and the outside world, I thought I could communicate directly, all this looks a bit clunky..

for the management of the 16a current I wanted to used the ABB s12.16.6.2 module instead by mistake I bought s12.16.5.2 the problem is that this one which costs €40 less but in the end does not have a consumption detector.. this is a problem.

The air conditioning system will be with fan coil and pdc. Can I ask questions?

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[asdfasdfasdParticipant 27 December 2022 at 06:43 Post count: 46]

#33887

I ask you the question anyway and I hope you can help me…

the heating system will be performed with an toshiba estia air/water pdc and 5 fan coils..

I took 5 actuators abb fcc/s1.3.1.1 with 1 relay output, 2 outputs 0-10 and 4 temperature/binary inputs..

first question:

in the case of heating mode I initially thought of taking a minimum sensor and connecting it to the binary input and then creating a forced action, however since my house is quite isolated I would like to circulate water below 40° and I am afraid of having problems with the long time if not immediately with the contact since they reach maximum closure at 35°.

so I thought of connecting a pt100 and transmitting the signal at 4-20ma but I don’t want to buy other devices so the only one is to connect the probe directly with a shielded cable, I don’t think I can exceed 20m from the furthest fancoil and I saw that there they are off set parameters to calibrate the values..

second question:

since I have the 0-10v valve outputs and the actuators in question are very expensive, I found a supplier on aliexpress with a model including a 1/2″ valve around €60, therefore of dubious quality.. the device has a relay output which is activated only in the heating phase and is therefore intended for a resistance and I could not use it to activate a valve in summer mode..

is there a way to hook up a 230 tube?

I hope I made myself understood..

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[asdfasdfasdParticipant 28 December 2022 at 10:37 Post count: 46]

#33901

hello .. I think I have solved .. at least theoretically

for the fancoil actuator I disable the valve outputs and use another actuator for opening.. I use normal 3-way valves, the 0-10v ones are too expensive and could give me problems.. to send the valve status, I put an actuator on the input of the heat pump, so I manage it with knx

for the probes using a shielded cable I shouldn’t have any problems..

[asdfasdfasdParticipant 30 December 2022 at 08:44 Post count: 46]

#33971

Hi.. I notice that it’s hard to understand how the various functions work today.. at the moment, to understand, I create groups and then read the value. Is there a faster way? How do you do?

[sinn3rParticipant 30 December 2022 at 14:20 Post count: 332]

#33979

It’s not always clear what you really mean, may be because of the double translation?
What exactly is hard to understand? You mean the actors? It’s always a very good idea to totally read and understand the manual of each actor. When mixing different vendors it’s not always the same “style” of naming and parameterization. That’s why I personally like MDT very much, as the manual is written in a very understandable way and there are always good usage examples included.
Or do you mean ETS?

[asdfasdfasdParticipant 1 January 2023 at 08:09 Post count: 46]

#34023

@sinn3r sorry

Hello everyone.. first of all happy new year.. I apologize if I can’t make myself understood, but I don’t know the technical terms, I’m trying translate them from my language..

so i made some progress.. i’m not an ‘over the top’ but i’m getting used to this ets..

….

Home assistant / Gira can I install them on top of a virtual machine with satisfactory results? I don’t want to have 2 PCs one for LAMP (PHP for my logic) and one for Gira / home asistant..

for the pc I think of a dell with i5-10500t which are at a good price ..

what do you recommend me to do?

PS: I hope I wrote in an understandable way

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[sinn3rParticipant 2 January 2023 at 09:31 Post count: 332]

#34038

Yes, you can run HA and Homeserver (at least the version from this forum) virtualized. Plan 1GB of RAM for Homeserver, 4GB for HA, so there should be a minimum of 8GB, better 16GB RAM on your VM host. i5-10500t should be fine.

[m00Participant 3 January 2023 at 12:02 Post count: 28]

#34098

If you want to save power, you can also just run Homeassistant on a Raspberry (but at least Version 3), where you COULD also run a PHP Server.
But i would highly advise you not to automate a smart home using PHP. Its a nice Language but just not the right tool for the job IMO.
Homeassistant itself can run some nice scripts and Gira Homeserver also. I would recommend Gira Homeserver if you want to focus more on “established” solutions like KNX and HomeAssistant if you want to integrate many smarthome components like Shelly, your Smart Appliances, Hue/IKEA lights, Vacuum Robots and so on, Gira HS is a bit outdated on this front.

m00

[asdfasdfasdParticipant 5 January 2023 at 18:39 Post count: 46]

#34173

Thanks for the replies..

I discarded the raspberry because it has the same price as a used 10500t.. as far as PHP is concerned, I did some tests with BAOS and it is very fast, I could make a windows program without a LAMP server but I would like to virtualize HA on DEBIAN and I have no experience with programming linux and python…

Question, by purchasing a GIRA home server or similar, are the automations managed directly via BUS or via the network?

That is, if the current goes out, do you have to wait for the router to return to service?

I would have found a LS100100 for €250, is it valid?

[ur63Participant 6 January 2023 at 08:32 Post count: 62]

#34189

Gira Homeserver is connected to KNX via KNX IP-Interface.
You get adequate hardware (eg. Fujitsu Futro S920) for €50-100 used on ebay.
What type of component is the “LS100100”?

[sinn3rParticipant 6 January 2023 at 13:04 Post count: 332]

#34193

The IP router takes about one second to boot up after a power outage, a virtualized HS needs about 10 seconds to boot but the virtualization host may need longer. If there are regular power outages I recomment getting a small USV for the “server” and the KNX bus.
The GIRA Homeserver doesn’t have a KNX interface, so there is no difference between a real hardware Homeserver and a virtualized one – though a virualized ony may be faster ;)
Why would you need a LS100100 when you can have a Homeserver and/or Home Assistant?
And I also don’t recommend to invest time in your own PHP software just for logic, better use it to learn how Homeserver works. I would even return or sell the BAOS and get a simple IP router/interface.

I invested some time over the holidays in getting to know Home Assistant and I really don’t like the way it has to be manually configured for KNX when dealing with alot of devices :(
You even need Node-RED to connect KNX to Home Assistant logic, which is sad!

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[asdfasdfasdParticipant 6 January 2023 at 15:14 Post count: 46]

#34200

Thanks for the answers.. router I meant the modem, I have a fritz 6890.. surely I will put the router under ups and maybe knx, I don’t have to invest time in learning PHP, I already know how to use it .. I would develop an interface in the minimum terms that I allows you to do direct automations with BAOS..

Regarding the SCHNEIDER system, I asked if it was valid given the low price at which I found it.. anyway at the moment I’m still far away from having the server, I have many other jobs to do at home..

[asdfasdfasdParticipant 9 January 2023 at 14:19 Post count: 46]

#34257

I can’t find any videos about the hs4 interface. Isn’t it used much?

But are control4 and basalt better?

[sinn3rParticipant 9 January 2023 at 14:39 Post count: 332]

#34259

I think that hs4 is the most used KNX visualisation/logic platform.
Youtube is full of hs4 videos. The management software ist called “Gira Experte”, it’s very oldschool, but functional. There is no web gui on the homeserver for setup. You can configure the whole homeserver without the device and then just upload the config to the hs after installation.
The inbuild visualisation is called “Quadclient” but you can also create your own html gui.

[asdfasdfasdParticipant 9 January 2023 at 17:52 Post count: 46]

#34274

Basically you are telling me that Home assistant is better.. :D

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